In this episode of “Lab Medicine Rounds,” Justin Kreuter, M.D., sits down with Matthew Binnicker, Ph.D., Director of Clinical Virology and Vice Chair of Practice in the Department of Laboratory Medicine and Pathology a Mayo Clinic, to talk about working and leading through uncertainty. Timestamps:0:00 Intro01:22 Why is working with uncertainty an important skill for us to cultivate?03:13 What are ways to keep grounded when navigating uncertainty?06:17 When you are not in a crisis moment, when it’s not an ambiguous time, how do you behave in a way that further cultivates this idea that you are a leader?08:22 How could we help our colleagues who are struggling with uncertainty?10:12 How can we help people with a fixed mindset as opposed to a growth mindset move from seeing negative feedback as uncomfortable, how can we help them see the growth and opportunity in front of them?12:09 I’m curious if you could share with our listeners a story of how uncertainty has surprised you most?15:35 Outro