In this conversation, Carl Jackson interviews Ned Ryun about his book 'American Leviathan: The Birth of the Administrative State and Progressive Authoritarianism'. They discuss the 9/11 attacks, the current state of the southern border, and the recent presidential debate. They also delve into the concept of the administrative state and how it has undermined the constitutional republic. Ned emphasizes the need to eradicate the administrative state and return to a true constitutional republic.