[Cet épisode est intégralement en anglais.] Kévi talks about race in France and in America with Gene Demby, co-host of NPR’s Code Switch. For this summer Mélanie, François and Kévi each offer you a solo episode. BACKGROUND READING • NPR’s Code Switch • « The President and the Census », an episode of the Daily about the 2020 Census in America • « Quelle est votre race ?  », a dossier (in French) of Le Monde Diplomatique about the Census in America • Why France produces the most World Cup players by Vox • Trevor Responds to Criticism from the French Ambassador – Between The Scenes | The Daily Show • « Faut-il des statistiques ethniques ? », an episode (in French) of Programme B about Ethnic Statistics in France CREDITS Le Tchip is a podcast hosted by Mélanie Wanga, Kévi Donat and François Oulac and produced by Binge Audio. This episode was recorded on July 2019 at the V. Despentes studio of Binge Audio (Paris, 19e). Edition : Quentin Bresson. Music : Shkyd. Production : Juliette Livartowski. Broadcasting : Diane Jean. Graphics : Sebastien Brothier (Upian).