How do you think our personal beliefs and values shape the way we see the world? In this episode, as we continue to explore the theme of learning to see nature as a gardener, Brian explores the concept of worldviews with futurist Cassidy Steele Dale. They delve into the "Knight" and "Gardener" perspectives, examining how these contrasting ways of seeing the world impact our relationships, our faith, and our approach to global challenges. Resources: The transcript for this episode can be found here. The Knight and the Gardener: The e-book is available here. Combat Theology: Cassidy's e-book exploring how religious strain can turn toxic and how to undo that process is available here. Think Future: Cassidy's Substack, where he shares insights about the future can be found here. Life After Doom: The new book by Brian McLaren can be found here and wherever books are sold.