Does it matter what fuels our fire in the kitchen? Javon Bennett explains how his family adapted their cooking when they moved from Jamaica to England, and Carwyn Graves explores open fire cooking and other Welsh kitchen traditions. A full transcript is available on the Lecker website. Lecker is written and produced by Lucy Dearlove Thanks to the contributors on this episode, Javon Bennett and Carwyn Graves.  And also thanks to Naomi Oppenheim who put me in touch with Javon via the British Library Caribbean Foodways project and also to my friend and previous Lecker guest Sian Stacey for telling me about Carwyn’s work. Buy the Kitchens print zine featuring original essays and illustrations! Original music was composed for the series by Jeremy Warmsley, with additional music by Blue Dot Sessions Research and production assistance from Nadia Mehdi. Extractor fan recording by Victoria Ferran Cover collage by Stephanie Hartman If you’ve enjoyed what you heard on this episode, or generally on Lecker, please consider rating and reviewing the podcast on Apple Podcasts, or wherever you're listening, and telling a friend about it! A big thank you go out to my new Patreon patrons: Anna, Naomi, Sonya, Gloria, Sian, Harriet, Jane, Kirsten, Sian and Hannah! And if you’ve really enjoyed listening to this episode, or are a big fan of the podcast in general already, please consider becoming a patron of the podcast at patreon.com/leckerpodcast