There are three groups of people around every legacy system - those who are stuck with it, those who don't want to be with it, and those who love it and see its value. How do we reconcile these three opinions and rewrite legacy code without completely replacing it? Today we talk with Dave Thomas. Dave is an all-around player in the software industry with vast experience as an executive, investor, board member, consultant, architect, and engineer. He is Chairman of Bedarra Corp, which provides consulting on technology and business strategy for emerging technology, products, and services. He tells us what the drivers of legacy innovations are, why he thinks refactoring is a "little lie" of the modern software industry, and how to approach modifications in less-than-ideal situations.  When you finish listening to the episode, connect with Dave on LinkedIn and visit his website at www.davethomas.net.  Mentioned in this episode: Dave Thomas on LinkedIn at https://www.linkedin.com/in/davidathomas/  Dave’s website at https://www.davethomas.net/index.html  Badera Corporation at https://www.bedarra.com/