Amanda Butts leads over 80 creatives across multi-brands for Elevance Health. This Blue Angels-laced episode was recording during the Chicago Air & Water Show and you'll hear Amanda's house get buzzed a few times early on in the interview. But you'll still be able to hear Amanda talk about her apprehension about leaving the traditional agency world and how that's panned out, eliminating the us vs. them mindset, and a very interesting way of structuring a creative department.