In this episode, I chat to Dr Simon Western, a leading academic and practitioner in coaching and leadership. He is the Founder CEO of The Eco-Leadereship Institute - an ethical leadership approach framework to orient organisations towards success in our networked and interdependent world. We talk about his interest in people, being deeply curious and a strong developmental urge that drives his work, what 'Re-enchanting our Worlds' means to him (and being dis-enchanted),  getting leaders to think in terms of 'ecosystems',  learning about eco-leadership from queer theory and social movements, how change happens at the edges, and what 'Staying with the trouble' means to him.   He is also author of Leadership a Critical Text   (3rd ed.Sage 2019), Coaching and Mentoring a critical text (Sage 2012), and co-author of  Global Leadership Perspectives: Insights and Analysis (Sage 2018).  Find out more here:  https://ecoleadershipinstitute.org/ His 'Edgy Ideas' podcast here: https://ecoleadershipinstitute.org/edgy-ideas Learn more at https://www.crewandriot.com/ Follow me on https://www.linkedin.com/in/chin-ru-foo-crewandriot/