Brad Hedlund is a networking legend when it comes to data centers and AWS cloud expert having spend several years at Cisco, VMWare, and AWS In this podcast, Brad shared his fascinating career journey and why he thinks Aviatrix is the next big thing in cloud networking Some key points we covered: 1. Why he left AWS and joined Aviatrix ? and his view of major inflection points in networking over the last 20 years. 2. Why he thinks the "center of gravity" in the cloud and need for consuming services in multiple cloud is making "networking cool again". 3. How role of network engineers is transforming in cloud and why Aviatrix is fast tracking their skills with a platform that allows for a common repeatable architecture (MCNA) across any CSP and connectivity back to on-prem ? 4. Economies of scale and pace of innovation are 2 key reasons why discussions are no longer "private vs public", but more of how to do public cloud better ? 5. Why cloud networking has become so critical for enterprises?   6. Why networking will never be advance focus of any CSP as they are not really in the business of providing a DC like traditional vendors. Their focus is higher lever business application services as that's where they compete with each other and critical role Aviatrix is playing for CSPs and customers  Hope you will enjoy !!