Hosts Marwa and Mae, together with Lord Alf Dubs, discuss access to truth, justice and accountability for refugees and migrants that have suffered gross human rights violations in Libya. They look at current avenues for protection and accountability, as well as how to effectively build migrants and refugees into future transitional justice mechanisms.   Lord Dubs is a British Labour politician and former Member of Parliament. He arrived in the UK as a refugee in 1939 and has served a long career in long career in public service.  Our report, No Way Out: Migrants and refugees trapped in Libya face crimes against humanity, is available here.  If you enjoyed this episode, please subscribe and leave us a review on Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen.  Follow us:   Twitter: @Libyamatterspod Facebook: @Libyamatters Instagram: @libyamatterspodcast Find our hosts on Twitter @Marwa_LFJL and @Mae_LFJL. This season of Libya Matters was produced by Damiri Media: @damiri.official Artwork by Agata Nowicka: @pixelendo  Libya Matters is brought to you by Lawyers for Justice in Libya (LFJL).   Visit our website. Subscribe to our mailing list. Support our work with a single or regular donation.