Both Andrew Morris and Sara Ramsden have personal experience of dealing with IPP sentences. Andrew from serving 12 years inside on the sentence, and Sara with a partner serving it. Both currently campaign for changes to the sentence with UNGRIPP. Here, Zak and Jules talk to them about their experience of this sentence, using clips from their recent conversation with Lord David Blunkett. This podcast is also available as a video – just search Life After Prison on YouTube. Useful organisations: UNGRIPP IPP Committee In Action Contact us: If anything you’ve heard in this podcast has inspired you to make a positive change in your life, or you’d just like to get in touch, please contact us. 💬 DM us: @afterprisonpod on Instagram, Twitter and TikTok 📧 Email us: [email protected] ✉️ Write to us: Life After Prison, National Prison Radio, HMP Brixton, London SW2 5XF 🖥️ Website: https://lifeafterprisonpod.com/