In episode four, Jake and Eva talk about *shudder* clutter … which leads into an extremely helpful conversation with Kathi Lipp (author of many books including, fittingly, one called “Clutter Free”) about mitigation and prevention of household clutter—both kid and adult clutter. Elsewhere, family counselor Danny Huerta relates advice for parents about age-appropriate ways to talk with our children about tragedy. And, as always, they wrap up with a “Can We Just Talk About…" rant about the trials and tribulations of kids and their shoes. Listen to the show on iTunes, Stitcher, or almost any of your favorite podcast feeds.