Michael Ellis is a world renowned dog trainer with over 40 years experience as a teacher, mentor, competitor, champion and speaker. It was a great honour to interview Michael as he has been an inspiration to Panos since the beginning of his career. Michael's online courses and content has shaped and influenced so many trainers worldwide for the best. We discussed topics such as behaviour modification, the complexities of behaviour theory and its application in real dog training. We went down some quite a few rabbit holes! Panos and Michael also discussed a foresight into the dog training industry over the next 20-30 years. Tune in to see what Michael's feelings are for the future of dog training. Find Michael's services at: www.michaelellisschool.com   Thank you for listening! Find us online >> Panos @ www.npdogtraining.com >> Luke @ www.kizunacanine.com.au >> www.facebook.com/lifewithyourdogpodcast >> www.instagram.com/lifewithyourdogpodcast >> www.lifewithyourdogpodcast.com