In this episode of Living Decoloniality, Carla interviews Themrise Khan. Themrise is an independent professional in international development, based in Pakistan, who is working to develop what she calls “a new ecosystem for international aid”. Themrise is not interested in using the framework of coloniality, although what she says echoes very much concepts and theories discussed in this podcast so far. She aims at creating a new roadmap that each country -and she stresses the national dimension of her plan – changes the way they live, provide, and ask for international aid. Resources: Themrise’s website Keynote speech at the 2023 Humanitarian Leadership Conference How was it recorded? zoom interview for Themrise. studio recording for Carla