Episode recorded: 07/07/23 In this episode of Living Proof, Dan Aspel and Marianne Freiberger are joined by Tomer Schlank (Hebrew University of Jerusalem) and Jeremy Hahn (MIT). Working alongside Robert Burklund and Ishan Levy, Tomer and Jeremy's recently announced a disproof of Ravenel's telescope conjecture at the June 2023 INI workshop "A panorama of homotopy theory".  Here, they explain why this was such a significant announcement, and what effect it has had on the field of homotopy theory. 2018 INI programme: https://www.newton.ac.uk/event/hhh/ 2023 follow-on workshop: https://www.newton.ac.uk/event/hhhw05/