Herb Dean Fight Career Deep Dive Ep 207 Herb Dean joins the LOP to discuss his fight career as well as giving his side to early King of the Cage backstage issues. Herb Dean takes us through the early No Commission days of the California circuit as well as discusses  controversial subjects Jeremy Jackson, Rafiel Torre and the Mark Hall vs Ken Shamrock Casino fight. This is a fun listen conversing about issues that are very rarely ever discussed Herb Dean Fight Career Deep Dive Ep 207 0:00 Lytes out intro 0:19 Joey Venti’s guest introduction 0:46 interview start 1:35 introduction to Martial arts  4:33 plugs/ promotions 7:54 Zane Frazier’s personality  9:52 Cecil Peoples 10:46 beginning referee career  11:29 reffing during the  headbutt era  13:09 Kajas cage combat  14:20 being reffed by Chuck Liddell  15:34 Scott Adams grappling level  17:34 Herb Deans core group of fighters  19:05 Joey Venti seeing potential in Herb Dean 20:15 Larry Landless  21:38 interactions with Matt Hume 22:37 Herb Dean becoming assertive  24:24 Patrick Côté vs Ricardo Almeida 26:32 Bobby Gamboa vs Charlie Valencia  28:19 Hitman fight promotion   32:20 Ultimate Athlete 2  38:10 interactions with Rafiel Torre 44:16 favorite KOTC moment  46:34 different cage designs  48:22 Tony Galindo  48:51 Ken Shamrock beating up Mark Hall 50:46 having respect for referees  51:49 west coast fighters vs Midwest fighters  57:21 Herb Dean vs Randy Halmot  59:39 Herb Dean vs Joe Riggs  1:01:41 Todd Medina issues with RITC promoter 1:02:30 Jeremy Jackson getting 30 years  1:07:08 watching Larry Landless fight  1:09:06 Herb Dean vs Jung Gyu Choi 1:13:50 Japan frowning on blood  1:16:03 reffing bloody fights  1:16:47 relationship with Savant Young 1:18:41 Herb Dean vs Dave Legeno  1:20:21 being told to cut hair to referee  1:20:51 beginning of KOTC 1:22:15 learning from Cecil Peoples  1:24:20 Chris Brennan issue with announcer  1:25:39 Don Frye and Obake backstage  1:26:53 Chris Leben vs Brian Sleeman 1:31:31 KOTC 12 Wet and wild  1:35:24 Jason House vs James Fanshier 1:37:26 Herb Dean referee highlights  1:38:35 Herb Deans thoughts on his memes 1:39:21 interview wrap out  1:39:39 outro/ final thoughts  Subscribe to the Lytes Out Podcast: https://www.youtube.com/@LytesOutClips Socials:  Facebook - https://www.facebook.com/groups/1027449255187255/?mibextid=oMANbw Instagram -  https://www.instagram.com/lytesoutpodcast/ iTunes -  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/lytes-out-podcast/id1568575809  Spotify -  https://open.spotify.com/show/3q8KsfqrSQSjkdPLkdtNWb  Mike - The MMA Detective - @mikedavis632  Cash App - $mikedavis1231 Venmo - Mike-Davis-63 ZELLE: [email protected] / ph#: 773-491-5052  Follow the #LOP team on Instagram:  Chris - Founder/Owner - @chrislightsoutlytle  Mike - MMA Detective - @mikedavis632  Joey - Assistant - @aj_ventitre Tyson - Producer - @ty.green.welding Andrew - Timestamps - @ambidexstress Outro song: Power - https://tunetank.com/t/2gji/1458-power #Herbdean #kingofthecage #MMA #UFC #NHB #LytesOutPodcast #lytesout  #MixedMartialArts #ChrisLytle #mmadetective  Support the show