Artist and designer Mik Gaspay left the steady 9 to 5 twice in his career and has learned a thing or two about being bold and going for what you want. On today’s episode of Making Ways podcast Mik shares his journey, discussing his move to Palo Alto from the Philippines at age 9, his work at Colorforms toys, and the moment the band Built to Spill helped light the spark to his pursuit of an independent career. Mik also offers practical advice for navigating the highs and lows of the freelance hustle.