Muralist Nathan Richard Phelps discusses his road to a creative life, the vision that propels his work, and the practical dollars and cents of making a living as an independent artist. Nathan creates beautiful, massive murals that are intensely personal and vividly otherworldly. This episode is brought to you by Soothe (https://www.soothe.com). Get $20 off your first massage with code MAKINGWAYS. Learn more at http://www.makingwayspodcast.com and on Instagram @making.ways.