In this riveting episode of "Hidden Killers," host Tony Brueski is joined by the insightful Bob Motta, a defense attorney and the host of "Defense Diaries," to dissect the complex and emotionally charged case of Ruby Frankie and Jodi Hildebrandt. Charged with the abuse of Frankie's children, both women have been sentenced to one to 15 years in prison for their heinous acts, with four consecutive sentences each. This episode promises to unravel the layers of this tragic story, providing a nuanced understanding of the legal and emotional aspects of the case. Motta, with his legal expertise, offers a critical perspective on the sentencing, discussing the broad range of potential years the accused could serve and the role of parole boards in determining the final sentence length. He questions the sincerity of the apologies issued by Frankie and Hildebrandt, emphasizing the lack of humanity and remorse shown during the abuse. Motta and Brueski delve into the severity of the sentence, arguing that such a harsh penalty is fitting for the grave nature of the abuse committed. The episode also explores the wider implications of the case, considering the psychological and physical damage inflicted on the children and the lasting impact of such trauma. They discuss the possibility of rehabilitation for the accused and the legal system's role in ensuring justice is served while addressing the needs of the victims. Additionally, the podcast touches on the intriguing aspect of Kevin Franke, Ruby's husband, and his potential accountability in the case. Motta weighs in on the complexities surrounding Franke's involvement, or lack thereof, in the abuse, and whether his actions, or inactions, could be deemed complicit. Listeners can expect a deep and thoughtful exploration of this harrowing case, guided by Brueski's probing questions and Motta's legal acumen. This episode of "Hidden Killers" is a must-listen for those interested in criminal law, child welfare, and the intricacies of high-profile abuse cases.   Want to listen to ALL of our podcasts AD-FREE? Subscribe through APPLE PODCASTS, and try it for three days free: https://tinyurl.com/ycw626tj Follow Our Other Cases: https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com The latest on Catching the Long Island Serial Killer, Awaiting Admission: BTK’s Unconfessed Crimes, Delphi Murders: Inside the Crime, Chad & Lori Daybell, The Murder of Ana Walshe, Alex Murdaugh, Bryan Kohberger, Lucy Letby, Kouri Richins, Malevolent Mormon Mommys, Justice for Harmony Montgomery, The Murder of Stephen Smith, The Murder of Madeline Kingsbury, and much more! Listen at https://www.truecrimetodaypod.com