( ENG) In this podcast I'm talking to the amazingly wise and talented Caroline S'Jegers. She describes herself as a 'Keeper' - a woman who cherishes and shares the wisdom that we hold in our bodies and in the Earth. In our conversation she shares her wisdom around the topic of Death and how life has initiated her in different ways in the concept of Death, including the story of how she lost her father. We then move from Death to Birth and how closely related these two are, as Caroline talks about natural birth and how her path as a mother of two sons has unfolded. Right before we close off, Caroline shares a beautiful poem with us called 'Into the Earth', you can listen to it at 1h09min.