Agree to disagree. This was the foundation of two ancient philosophers and friends, Archytas and Plato. Plato was a philosophical mathematician, and Archytas was a mechanical engineer. But, the friendship was strong enough to save Plato's life.  If you want to read more about the history of math and science, please visit me at www.MathScienceHistory.com. And while you're there, feel free to buy me a cup of coffee to support the podcast and the blog! To buy my book Hypatia: The Sum of Her Life on Amazon, visit https://a.co/d/g3OuP9h Until next time, carpe diem! Gabrielle All music is public domain. Little Prince by Lloyd Rodgers. www.LloydRodgers.com.