On this episode, Michael is joined by Dr J.D. Schnepf, Assistant Professor of American Studies at the University of Groningen in the Netherlands. Her research focuses on the literature and culture of the US security state, surveillance technologies, extractive infrastructures, and the War on Terror. You can follow her at https://twitter.com/jd_schnepf. Drone Futures is hosted by Michael Richardson, Senior Research Fellow at the University of New South Wales, whose research examines the intersection of war, culture and technology. https://twitter.com/richardson_m_a Media Futures Hub works at the intersection of media and cultural studies to shape the theories, methods and practices needed for more just media futures. https://twitter.com/MediaFuturesHub