This is an interview of Rev. David Kangangi Njoka, pastor of Life in Christ Church in Nairobi, Kenya. In our conversation, David shares about his weekly ministry as a pastor, the joys of co-pastoring with his wife, and preaching at mechanic's garages and construction sites. He also shares about the challenges facing Kenyan churches today including people wanting instant blessings and also the current movement of Christians wanting to return to African traditional religion and their traditional regional gods. At the end, David encourages North American churches to trust in God and not in their riches. Interviewed November 10th, 2021.