This interview is of Rev. Stephen Omoko, pastor of Nakatunya PAG in Soroti, Uganda. Stephen shares about how God called him to be a pastor and shares about the ways churches can really hurt their pastors and how he has experienced this himself. We also discuss dreams, counseling broken marriages, counseling families, adolescents, and single mothers, and what Stephen has learned from his school about how to be a better counselor. Stephen also shares about the strain that ministry can put on marriage because of being over busy. Interviewed Dec. 22nd, 2021.