This interview is of Pastor Chris Shiundu of Exploits Worship Centre in Nairobi, Kenya. Chris shares his interesting testimony about how he came to know Christ and also about how he became a pastor. He shares about his church's ministry to the poor and to prisoners. But we mainly discuss the topic of the Holy Spirit and the Church. Chris discusses his views on the baptism of the Holy Spirit and speaking in tongues. Chris ends by appreciating and challenging both African churches and North American churches in relation to the topic of the Holy Spirit. Interviewed March 8th, 2022.