This interview is with Kefas Solomon Akundo, Director of Nigeria-Integrated Development Programme of the Christian Reformed Church of Nigeria. Kefas is located in Takum, Taraba State, Nigeria. In this conversation, Kefas talks briefly about his ministry of teaching pastors and working for community development. But the main focus of this podcast is about the tribal conflict, banditry, religious conflict, and kidnapping that is making Nigeria, and particularly Kefas' region so insecure. He shares encouraging news about how the churches are responding to this violence, and asks for serious prayers from the listeners. Interviewed May 30th, 2022.