This interview is with Pastor Eugene Munyampama from Kigali, Rwanda. He pastors Grace Communion Church. In this conversation, Eugene shares about the trauma and wounds so many people in Rwanda are still carrying after the genocide in 1994. He discusses a program called Healing Hearts Transforming Nations which is helping people heal from their grief, shame, and hurts by pointing them to Jesus. Interviewed October 24th, 2022.  (29 minutes)