Dr. Ann Burgess is the subject of Director Abigail Fuller’s “Mastermind: To Think Like a Killer” (now streaming on Hulu), and both women join me to discuss their intriguing new true-crime docuseries. In the late 1960s, Dr. Burgess pioneered the use of profiling along with the FBI’s Division of Behavioral Sciences. Her research helped the bureau catch some of the most notorious serial killers and rapists in the country despite intense skepticism of the fledgling practice. The two discuss the evolution of victims’ rights, Dr. Burgess’s experience as a woman in a field made up entirely of men, and how her formal training and years of being a nurse informed this novel approach to criminology and interrogation. The only way “Group Text” happens is with YOUR support and support from our amazing sponsors! I LOVE these gummies! No joke! Head to Viiahemp.com and use the code GROUPTEXT to receive 15% off + one free sample of their award-winning gummies. (21+). Thanks for supporting Group Text Delicious Factor Meals are my go to for healthy meals at home! Go to FactorMeals.com/GroupText50 to get 50% off! Factor sponsors my podcast so if you support them, you're supporting Group Text This episode is sponsored by LolaVie, an award winning haircare line founded by the fabulous Jennifer Aniston! Go to LolaVie.com and use the promo code GROUPTEXT and checkout for 15% off your ENTIRE order!  That's L O L A V I E dot com with the promo code GROUPTEXT. This is another Hurrdat Media Production. Hurrdat Media is a podcast network and digital media production company based in Omaha, NE. Find more podcasts on the Hurrdat Media Network by going to HurrdatMedia.com or Hurrdat Media YouTube channel! Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices