Content Warning: **This podcast discusses topics of child exploitation and alleged abuse. Listener discretion is advised.** It’s the most asked question about the case: Were Lyle and Erik really abused, and who are the real monsters? In this episode, we hear both sides of the story and ask the crucial question: Who are the real monsters—Lyle and Erik, or their parents, Kitty and José? In this podcast, we’ve included small excerpts from the 1993 trial, courtesy of Court TV. If you’d like to view the entire trial, you can follow them here See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.