In our tumultuous times, is anarchism a fate to be dreaded or could it actually be part of the solution? In her definitive history of anarchism The Government of No One, Ruth Kinna argues that anarchism in various forms has made a series of challenging contributions to political thought rooted in a belief in freedom and working towards collective good without the interference of the state. She is in conversation with Julian Baggini and Nathan Eisenstadt (Bristol University). See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.