As a precursor to the OGRA Managing Winter Operations Workshop Thomas and Jared talk winter maintenance with the City of Pickering's Manager of Public Works and OGRA past president, Rob Burlie. With COVID-19 putting an unwanted twist on a season already rife with uncertainty, Rob shares his expertise and myriad of experiences including being involved with the Canadian Armed Forces being deployed to Toronto in 1999. Be sure to check out this new episode and remember to subscribe to the podcast on any of your favourite podcasting apps. While you're there be sure to leave a review!