The fifteenth episode of the Michael and Myles (M&M) podcast finds us starting to sift through the UK sector response to Covid and the hybrid appoach we are adopting at the University of Edinburgh. It includes some of the sources of our inspiration as well (we are looking at you, UCT, SUZA, UDSM, Makerere, and Beni American University. Thank you!). As always, this episode is hosted by Michael Gallagher, a Lecturer in Digital Education at the Centre for Research in Digital Education, and Myles Blaney, a service manager in Digital Learning Applications and Media both of the University of Edinburgh.