The twenty-first episode of the Michael and Myles (M&M) podcast brings us back to the reason the podcast started in the first place: a project around automation and teaching. We discuss some of the use cases emerging from this project in a freeflowing banter befitting of the uncertainty around the topic, one that tries to capture what the university community wants from all of this. All of what we talk about is somehow captured in one of these three articles:  Gallagher, M., & Breines, M. (2020). Surfacing knowledge mobilities in higher education: reconfiguring the teacher function through automation. Learning, Media and Technology, 1-13.Breines, M. R., & Gallagher, M. (2020). A return to Teacherbot: rethinking the development of educational technology at the University of Edinburgh. Teaching in Higher Education, 1-15.Gallagher, M.; Breines, M. & Blaney, M. (2020). Ontological transparency, (in)visibility, and hidden curricula: surfacing critical pedagogy through contentious edtech. Postdigital Science and Education.  As always, this episode is hosted by Michael Gallagher, a Lecturer in Digital Education at the Centre for Research in Digital Education, and Myles Blaney, a service manager in Digital Learning Applications and Media both of the University of Edinburgh.