David Neiwert, author of Of Orcas and Men: What Killer Whales Can Teach Us (The Overlook Press, June 2015), joins us to talk orcas on todays episode of Modern Notion Daily. Neiwert explores the killer whales unique intelligence and ability to echolocate, as well as the conditions these animals are subjected to in captivity. We should look to orcas as models for empathy and how to be at the top of the food chain, according to Neiwert. Music this hour: Friday Im in Love by The Cure “Forgiven Not Forgotten” by Jahzzar, from the album Kuddelmuddel “Soldiertype (militarised)” by Ketsa, from the album What’s Without’s Within Pippin the Hunchback by Kevin MacLeod, from the album Thatched Villagers