Today we are airing Erik's interview with Joe Lonsdale, originally published on Upstream in 2023. Joe Lonsdale is the co-founder of Palantir, managing partner at 8VC, and the founder of The Cicero Institute, a nonpartisan policy organization discusses the root causes of educational inequality and homelessness, and argues for competence over culture wars, data-driven solutions, and market incentives to fix some of the US' most plaguing problems. Grow your newsletter with Beehiiv: head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months. 🔥 Apply to join over 400 founders and Execs in the Turpentine Network: https://hmplogxqz0y.typeform.com/to/JCkphVqj – SPONSORS: NETSUITE | BEEHIIV | SQUAD NETSUITE 📈 NetSuite has 25 years of providing financial software for all your business needs. More than 36,000 businesses have already upgraded to NetSuite by Oracle, gaining visibility and control over their financials, inventory, HR, eCommerce, and more. If you’re looking for an ERP platform head to NetSuite: http://netsuite.com/zen - NetSuite has extended a one-of-a-kind flexible financing program for a few more weeks. BEEHIIV 🐝 Power your newsletter with Beehiiv, the newsletter platform built for growth. Connect with premium brands, scale your audience, and deliver a beautiful UX that stands out in an inbox. Head to https://Beehiiv.com and use code "MOZ" for 20% off your first three months SQUAD 💥 Head to Squad to access global engineering without the headache and at a fraction of the cost: head to https://choosesquad.com/ and mention “Turpentine” to skip the waitlist. – LINKS: Cicero Institute: https://ciceroinstitute.org/ 8VC: https://www.8vc.com/ Palantir: https://www.palantir.com/ Joe Lonsdale's blog: https://blog.joelonsdale.com – FOLLOW ON X: @eriktorenberg (Erik) @JTLonsdale (Joe) @moz_podcast (Moment of Zen) @TurpentineMedia – TIMESTAMPS: (00:00) Intro (00:47) Philanthropy and Impact: Joe's Approach to Social Change (01:18) Nonpartisan Solutions for Broken Systems (02:55) Cicero Institute's Mission and Impact Across States (07:42) Addressing Education Inequality and Accountability (12:32) Reforming Prisons and Probation with Data and Accountability (16:12) Tackling Homelessness with Common Sense and Accountability (18:53) Sponsor: Netsuite | Beehiiv (21:16) Introducing Market Incentives, Market Competition, and Market Accountability (25:06) Sponsor: Squad (26:34) Innovative Approaches to Healthcare (31:12) Rethinking Healthcare and Leadership (31:32) Innovating Within vs. Outside the System (32:13) The Challenge of Reforming Institutions (33:41) Navigating the Complexities of Defense and Innovation (37:36) The Power of State-Level Impact and Education Reform (39:29) Silicon Valley's Influence and Responsibility (40:32) Cultural Shifts and the Role of New Institutions (55:27) The Future of American Competence and Optimism (57:42) Wrap