You know there's a lot of talk right now about the government, the elites, those in power, doing or planning to do this thing and that thing And no doubt there have been some bad outcomes lately … we can all easily see that just from looking around. But how much of it is caused by effective evil guys .. and how much from incompetent good guys? The second thing I’m pondering is the fact that most people who have strong opinions are not able to argue the opposite point of view. I wanna see if notorious government cynic Tim Conley can do that! --  Takeaways from this episode: Me and Tim both agree that there are people with some power with some bad intentions..  I doubt the efficiency of those people; Tim believes that because catastrophies have happened in the past there is a chance they could happen again in the future. So there’s nothing wrong with putting yourself on the path to financial freedom in order to be in a position where you won’t be needing help from others .. and a position where you’re the one who’s doing the helping.