Recently I was interviewed by my good friend Matt Knabe on the ExEm podcast which is put out by Emerge Counseling Ministries. Emerge played a vital role in my healing as I had to journey through divorce. I thought it would be cool to share this conversation I had with Matt, and I’m grateful that he’s allowed me to re-post it here. So, here’s the interview about how I lived and led through the worst days of my life. ExEm podcast on Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/experience-emerge-exem/id1503678830 ExEm Podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0EXe6iycAIdRE2mGNE5mzB?si=65102d6227fe490e  Gary’s links: https://linktr.ee/gdurbin