Them Before Us is a “global movement defending children’s rights to their mother and father.” Katy Faust joins me today to talk about how Them Before Us is challenging the threats to children in our society. We talk about how discussions about abortion, same-sex marriage, IVF, divorce, and many other topics can advance public policy discussion if presented from the perspective of children’s rights. Youtube - https://youtu.be/GivXImn6Lk8 Audio - https://andymilleriii.com/media/podcast Apple -  https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/more-to-the-story-with-dr-andy-miller/id1569988895?uo=4 Katy came on my podcast a few years ago. Check that out here. Here’s a link to her website - https://thembeforeus.com/ Click here to check out my Contender Course and Heaven Course! Find out more here - courses.andymilleriii.com And don’t forget about my book that came out last summer, Contender, which is available on Amazon!  Five Steps to Deeper Teaching and Preaching - Recently, I updated this PDF document and added a 45-minute teaching video with slides, explaining this tool. It's like a mini-course. If you sign up for my list, I will send this free resource to you. Sign up here - www.AndyMillerIII.com or Five Steps to Deeper Teaching and Preaching.  Today’s episode is brought to you by these two sponsors:  Bill Roberts is a financial advisor, who has been serving the retirement planning and investment needs of individuals, families, non-profits, and churches for 25 years. He is a Certified Financial Planner and accredited investment fiduciary. Bill specializes in working with Salvation Army employees and officers by helping them realize their financial goals.  You can find out more about Bill’s business at www.WilliamHRoberts.com AND Wesley Biblical Seminary - Interested in going deeper in your faith? Check out our certificate programs, B.A., M.A.s, M.Div., and D.Min degrees. You will study with world-class faculty and the most racially diverse student body in the country. www.wbs.edu Thanks too to Phil Laeger for my podcast music. You can find out about Phil's music at https://www.laeger.net