In this episode that originally aired in November 2020, Kaanji and Tara chat with journalist, author, nonprofit founder, and mother, Gretchen Carlson. You may know Gretchen as a former Miss America and the courageous woman who has been a leading voice in speaking out about workplace harassment. But you may not know what her kids thought about her stance or what she has been up to recently. Listen to this week’s powerful episode to find out more and be inspired by Gretchen’s journey, her resilience, and her courage. Want to get involved in Gretchen’s work? Donate to Lift Our Voices: https://www.liftourvoices.org/  If you or someone you know is experiencing workplace harassment and wants free legal counsel visit: betterbrave.org or https://nwlc.org/legal-assistance/  Connect with us: Clubhouse: @Kaanji and @Taraallyce Become a Podcast Patron: www.patreon.com/blackandwhitemomcast IG:@blackandwhitemomcast Kaanji: @Kaanji_irby Tara: @Tatstar