Susie explores the future of leather and its implications, asking Rob Percival, the author and head of food policy at The Soil Association, about the role of cows in a regenerative farming system and the importance of making use of by-products. She also asks the vlogger, model and environmental activist Emma Winder for her Gen-Z take on what a new generation of leather lovers looks like and speaks to the managing director of a tannery which puts environmental responsibility at the forefront of its business. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information.