While there is a thing about first debates by incumbent presidents, clearly a pattern of not doing well, we may have just witnessed a trend-defyingly bad performance. But it still deserves a little context. So we will get into a few bad Presidential first debates - Reagan/Bush/Obama. But we'll also talk about this one. We talk about everything - DNC Options, Biden's decisions from here on out, VP Harris, and debate clunkers. in 2004, 1984 and 2012. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices