In episode 20, Johnny talks to London rapper Jelani Blackman.⁠  An accomplished vocalist, producer and multi-instrumentalist, Jelani has just released his fantastic debut album The Heart Of It. This comes after a busy few years in the industry that saw him collaborating with - among others - Damon Albarn and Gorillaz, and with producers Fred Again and Brian Eno.  Johnny's talk with Jelani covers Christopher Nolan and Martin Scorsese, Christian Bale and Leonardo DiCaprio, and they discuss the power that Scampi and Chips and Prosecco has on a movie...when you’re suffering with a hangover.  This conversation was recorded online at the end of November 2023. Thanks to James Van As who wrote and performed the brilliant music (check out James' ⁠⁠⁠Loco Looper⁠⁠⁠ game) and to Willow Van As who designed the amazing artwork and provided general podcast support.   You can contact My Movie DNA on Twitter/X @mymovieDNA or email [email protected].