In this episode, I have a fascinating conversation with Mr. Avery Payne, the Band Director at Millbrook High School in Raleigh, North Carolina. Notably, under his leadership, the Millbrook HS Wind Ensemble performed at the NCMEA Conference in 2022. Moreover, this year, they graced the stage at the National Concert Band Festival in Indianapolis, Indiana. Specifically tailored for aspiring and early-career educators, this episode delves into the intricacies of long-term planning necessary to consistently move a program's performance to a higher level. Avery shares invaluable insights and practical advice for educators embarking on their journey, especially those stepping into their first teaching roles.