Somewhere around 2015, the first of the John genre articles arrived, trumpeting that there are more CEOs named John than women CEOs in their entirety.   In this episode, we have a well-presented talk by Jess Lilley, who focuses on this issue and talks through what we (John) can do about it. Jess is a co-founder at The Open Arms, a creative company that strives to weaponise empathy to help communities thrive. After a near 20-year career as an award-winning writer and creative director in some of the world’s most renown ad agencies, Jess realised the culture of the ad world just wasn’t working for her (or her family). She joined forces with a couple of great people to create something a little different. Their goal is to make work with a social purpose that leaves their patch of the world a little better than they found it. Listen to the full podcast ep or watch this talk at https://nniwd.nevernotcreative.org/. Big thanks to Streamtime - https://streamtime.net/ Other links: https://theopenarms.com.au  https://nevernotcreative.org Episode analytics --- Send in a voice message: https://anchor.fm/nevernotcreative/message