Ravish Kumar is one of India's most accomplished journalists, known for his stint with NDTV India. But what is it like to be inside his mind? In this vodcast interview, filmmaker Vinay Shukla talks about his experience filming Kumar in intimate spaces, the YouTube leak of the documentary, and the state of Indian media and NDTV. Shukla's documentary, 'While We Watched', is a fly-on-the-wall look at Kumar's life and work. The film follows Ravish as he battles the external threats of violence in an ever-polarized national climate, and an internal dilemma between what the market wants, and what his brand of journalism stands for. In this interview, Shukla talks about the challenges of filming a complex portrait of a public figure. He also discusses the YouTube leak of the documentary, which happened after it was aired on American television. He offers his own insights into the state of Indian media and NDTV, the news channel where Kumar has worked for over two decades.