Newt talks with Nicholas Ma, an award-winning director, writer, and producer, about his new film "Leap of Faith." The film follows 12 diverse Christian leaders as they navigate contentious issues and build bonds over a series of retreats in Grand Rapids, Michigan. The discussion delves into Ma's career transition from global economic policy to filmmaking, his inspirations, and the challenges of documentary storytelling. Ma reflects on the influence of Fred Rogers, the subject of his previous documentary "Won't You Be My Neighbor?" and how it shaped his approach to "Leap of Faith." The conversation highlights the importance of storytelling, emotional truth, and the power of vulnerability in creating impactful documentaries. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.