This week we are speaking with Paul Kivel, social justice educator, activist and writer. Paul will share his rich history of his work in social justice. PAUL KIVEL is a social justice educator, activist and writer whose work spans five decades in community education, engaged parenthood, political writing, and practical activism. Kivel works for collective healing, transformation and justice. He asks us “How can we live and work together to nurture each individual and create a multicultural society based on love, caring, justice, and interdependence with all living things?” Kivel was a co-founder of the Oakland Men’s Project and a leader in the anti-violence movement developing resources to work with men against sexism and male violence.  He is also part of the group that started SURJ—Showing Up for Racial Justice and a leader in the anti-racist movement developing resources for white people working for racial, economic and gender justice.  Kivel’s most recent books are a revised, updated 4th edition of Uprooting Racism: How White People Can Work for Racial Justice and Living in the Shadow of the Cross.https://paulkivel.com/  https://christianhegemony.org/ If you or someone you know is experiencing domestic violence, there is help available. Please call The Hotline at 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) or visit their website on a safe device at www.thehotline.org. Or find your nearest New Mexico domestic violence program at https://www.nmcadv.org/find-nm-resources.  If you are looking for an intervention program, click this link to see a listing for most States in the USA: https://www.biscmi.org/offender-intervention-programs-listing-by-state/. You are not alone. Love our conversations? Make sure to subscribe, rate, and share our podcast. You can submit questions and feedback to [email protected].