In this episode of No Labels Talks, Ryan chats with Maya McGuineas, President of the Bipartisan Committee for a Responsible Federal Budget, about the alarming growth of the national debt and the potential fiscal impact of both Donald Trump and Kamala Harris's spending plans. McGuineas breaks down how both campaign proposals could add trillions to the debt by 2035 while also discussing what's driving our current deficit crisis, such as entitlement programs and rising interest payments. This is an important conversation about getting our fiscal house in order that you won't want to miss. This is a public episode. If you would like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit nolabels.substack.com