Norm and his girlfriend were back in the U.S. for a visit and as the pandemic escalated they made the quick decision to leave the country again. For the first time on Grounded Nomads, we talked mostly about the future of travel—practically and emotionally, for ourselves and in general. See www.nomadtopia.com/groundednomads for more episodes + resources and join the Nomadtopia Collective to be part of the conversation & connect with a welcoming community who knows what you're going through.