In this episode, Austin chats with Tarun Chitra (Gauntlet) about the history of markets and the evolution of the math which underpins them. Over the course of their free-form conversation, they cover everything from the ancient history of futures (literally) to the impact of computers on finance in the 80's to the creation of financial products on blockchain that couldn't exist in TradFi. According to Tarun, DeFi will succeed in the long run not by emulating TradFi instruments onchain, but by forging these net new opportunities.